The 3rd class medical crosses the line where freedom is unreasonably denied in the pursuit of absolute safety. He did not disclose any of his medical issues to the AME, and passed his medical in 2011. If I tell the AME about this will I not get my cert that day? They are actually almost the same as for Third Class. It is already hard enough to convince the FAA that you are healthy enough to fly after dealing with lifes curve balls. Some of the disqualifying conditions are definitely going to keep someone from getting a medical certificate, but these are illnesses such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. I'm a pilot, and an air traffic controller. What is 1st 2nd and 3rd class FAA medical? Throwaway account for obvious reasons. If you do or don't disclose, that's your business. I served 6 years with the U.S. Secret Service, protecting POTUS and his family. Flying is no more dangerous than driving when properly trained. I dont blame poeple for lying. He knew it. At medical renewal you give a different date for same previously reported event. If you have a new medical diagnosis, just received a letter from the FAA or have any concerns about your FAA medical certificate, let us help. Yes the present medical sytem sucks but, its all we have until better management goes to Washington. If you dont take a medication NOW, it does not need to be reported. Age is only a number. Seems ludicrous to me. After 30 years without a problem, one would think the risk of incapacitation is no greater than the general pilot population flying on a normal class III medical. Find one that will help you get through the maze, not simply hand your problem off to the FAA. No faxes or emails are allowed. Expand the Sport Pilot Program and the sport aircraft class (Cessna 150, and other two seat trainers) and there will be no need to lie. The FAA has created an atmosphere that not only encourages problems to go unchecked and unreported, but actually makes some of those problems worse by discouraging pilots from addressing them, instead allowing them to fester. Have you EVER been dizzy? N.C., one does not have the right to lie to the feds investigating an illegal act. FAA Disqualifying Conditions: Bipolar Disorder. For example, what if one is tired or snores. The absurdity is having a major federal bureaucracy policing this incredibly low number of deaths. . The whole thing is about safety but the FAA has never proven the need for the medicals, especially the third class, it was just randomly instituted one day a long time ago. We all know that volume of cars on the roads vs. number of planes in the air leads to have to deal with more idiots on the ground. you say he flys solo whats it to you, Gee I fell out of bead a week ago and wacked my head I wonder if I should tell the FAA. I went to my own doctor who advised me it was nothing to worry about. :-) However, since I do really like flying, it does make one avoid looking too hard for problems. Oh yeah did I mention that I live in an isolated community and that the next mediocre doc is a good four hour drive away? I have informed my regular doctor to please clear with me anything they might write in my record, as it could affect my FAA medical. As a 74 year old pilot, I feel that seeing the Aviation Doc every two years is good for my health. Headwind vs. Tailwind Whats the Difference? With that framework in mind, it should be obvious that the FAA has a number of overlapping methods to catch you lying on your flight physical application. 45,000 Northern California pilots with current medical certificates Wow - are there really 45,000 pilots with current medicals in just Northern California? How is that fair? FAA sets up high-level alerts for missed airline inspections, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. I lost my 2012 medical cert in Istanbul, and make the mistake of sending the FAA form requesting a duplicate. The big question is, though, whether it matters. Thank you for the advice and expertise Sir, you just saved me a $50.00 discussion appointment with my AME. Read from the question directly above the one you linked to: Long-standing FAA regulation, 61.53, prohibits all pilotsthose who are required to hold airman medical certificates and those who are notfrom exercising privileges during periods of medical deficiency. It is possible that the Emirates authorities will check to see if he can make an attempt at a complete sentence with capitalization and punctuation. I showed him on the form. What Are the Chances of and Penalties for Getting Caught Lying on an FAA Medical? In this application, you must disclose any information about a condition that has the potential to affect your eligibility to fly. So please just be honest you they are gonna find out about one day or another just like the case out in California back in 2005 for pilots lying about question 18y Medical disability benefits and many of them were in legal trouble. The fibbing about a little issue. Your AME will review your MedXPress application in detail and conduct a physical exam. Such disorders might be genetic. Sign up for our free email newsletter, packed with tips, tricks and news for pilots. The medical only looks at your health at the point in time. You are proceeding at your own risk. All because of a blood pressure medication I put on my 2012 medical form. Do You Need A PHD To Be A Medical Scientist? I had a friend that sold very pricey aircraft (demonstration pilot) that was colorblind. And two complete submittals of blood tests. FAA Current Detailed Clinical Progress Notes. Duration of Medical Certificate Pilots who are age 40 and older will still renew a third class medical every 24 months. I need some advice from experienced pilots / medical professionals about a problem. However, if you do get caught, at best you will lose your license. Never used my weapon except for training. I am a physician instrument pilot with an appreciation for medical limitations. They ask about frequent or severe yet dont define how frequent is frequent or how severe is severe. Sometimes I think its not necessary for ATC people to have medicals. It's better to try to resolve a condition first than to risk having your application rejected or delayed for months by the FAA. should also be aware that the FAA now routinely cross-references your VA disability rating when determining your eligibility for a medical certificate. The FAA makes it clear what counts as a disqualifying condition. If you you diagnosed with some sort of Learning Disability like ADD,ADHD,OCD,LD it doesnt make a difference. Funny thing is the murmur is gone but Ill never have my life back If you lie on your medical form Best of luck. The cost of the medical exam will vary by location and examiner as well as the type of exam given. There shouldnt be different standards. I dont think its ever been a question about whether pilots lie. The FAA Cannot possibly know all the doctors or hospitals you have ever been to unless you tell them. If youre over 40 and your first-class medical is not renewed within six calendar months, itll revert to the privileges of a second-class medical for an additional six months. Telling the truth in MedXPress is clearly the right thing to do, but that is not what this article is about. She rekindled an unpursued interest I buried over 30 years ago when we got married and started having children. Ultimately, a FAA medical denial for ADHD is almost never the end of the road for an airman. Our fact-checkers review each article to ensure that all the information presented is accurate, relevant and up-to-date. Avoid Medical Certification Delay. I do not expect it to change in my life time. It does happen. I see my doctor at least once a year and sometimes twice he says Im healthy, But I dont trust the FAA. Anyone who would report this immediately loses their medical and has to wait a year. If I wanted to continue learning to fly I had to pay to visit a nomiated CAA doctor. Fly with a friend and share expenses, help a youngster learn to fly and let them fly you around in your plane. The FAA has panels of civilian medical experts for each speciality who meet regularly to review the FAA medical regulations and recommend changes based on new research. The SIC will pull the body out of HIS brand new seat. It's usually the "have you ever" questions. In other words, bigger name on the other line. Theyll wait until a couple of major airline pilots go postal or have a seizure over the threshold and get the front page bold type, then overreact totally inappropriately, and far too late. After you complete your MedXPress application, you will need to schedule an FAA flight physical with an Aviation Medical Examiner (AME). In my opinion the medical standards of evaulating pilots needs to be changed in light of new treatments. The states set the standards for driver licenses and the Feds set the standards for pilot medical certificates and pilot certificates. They leave that up to you, but just make sure you read their minds so that your interpretation matches theirs that they dont tell you. I really want to fly but Im not sure my passion, not to mention my wallet, will be enough to get me through this process. Make no mistake: Form 8500-8 is a legal instrument, unlike many other documents. Therefore, I lied. If they can just rid the world of these bothersom pilots then their job will be much easier. The odds of a passenger catching Covid-19 on a flight and dying from the virus are less than one in half a million. Who would you send them to? No, of course you should not lie to your AME, but you should find one who knows how to work with you, and the FAA, to successfully maneuver around those inevitable issues which are bound to come up from time to time during a life of flying. At worse, you may face a hefty fine or even criminal prosecution. Ultimately, if you have a condition that you know will result in denial, become a sport pilot. A pilot might reason, for example, that the antidepressant he's taken for months hasn't caused any side effects and actually makes him more mentally fit to fly, a safer pilot. Its funny that this question even comes up. I avoid medical intervention like the plague. What Are the Chances of Getting Caught Lying on an FAA Medical? Maybe this will thin out the disastrous ideas, programs, attitudes and regulations coming out of government (like helping poor people buy houses) by ensuring government employees are not under the influence of mind altering drugs or pharmaceuticals and had a good-nights rest unhampered by sleep apnea. They will also review how your current application compares to the ones you have submitted in the past and your driving record. However, if you do get caught, at best you will lose your license. speaks to mental disorders of any sort. It goes on to give examples of depression, anxiety, etc. The FAA typically expects applicants to also identify at question 18m. Also the FAA does check your National Driver Register/Record so make sure you keep your driving safe. Im another one that was originally honest and regrets it. One just hopes that the untruths are regarding minor medical issues they feel will disqualify them that wont compromise their safety as well as all others around them. Never happens! With over 20,000 hours of real world experience, much of it in Cessna 172s and P210s, Collins wrote about safety, weather and air traffic control from first-hand experience. I know this Pilot who has type 1 Diabetes which requires insulin injections daily, drinks alcohol every night, takes an antidepressant, and every afternoon gets the shakes. I say that based on the relative numbers discussed above. That resulted in the rejection of my 2010 medical! There are two schools of thought on this issue: 'If you wanna fly, you gotta lie' versus 'honesty is always the best policy.' They were like so we dont think you ever had it Passed tests with flying colors. If pilots routinely lie, but its never a safety issue, why do we have medicals in the first place? I fly a Cirrus, my wife knows how to pull the parachute. Your, AME will review your MedXPress application. Its a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. I am 64 years old. But then how would all the AMEs and some people in the FAA make a living??? Two of the pilots I know of with these problems have Class 1 Medical Certificates. You would be surprised how many complaints FSDOs receive for folks reporting their family members. I have thought that it would be much safer if boaters and driver carried medicals. TH REASON IS FOR INJURIES I RECIEVED WHEN MY 01 LANDED WITH OUT A RUNWAY. If you are stupid and want to wait months for a medical waiver. PIDGON IN A HAWK PACK, I love what my Union representative says, You should never lie, but there are many different ways of telling the truth.. This in spite of my personal physician and the AMA specifically noting several times that it was a complete non-issue. I have read articles online about pilots who get caught falsifying their medical. If they have any concerns about your eligibility to hold a medical certificate, AMEs can also deny your application or defer your certification to the FAA for further review. How do we know that health issues rarely cause flying accidents? The FAA revised 61.53 to include under this prohibition sport pilots who use a current and valid U.S. drivers license as medical qualification.. For those who fly for a living, YOU are the natural enemy doctor. With a small investment of time and energy, in the beginning, it is possible to keep flying with most medical conditions as long as they are well controlled. Increasing the gross weight limit of the Sport Aircraft class is a really good idea. As you say does nothing to hinder my ability to fly a plane in anyway, but the FAA says is not allowed, SO. Self certification is where the FAA should focus their energy. Find a Senior AME in your area, call and ask to speak to the AME about your problem. If you do have heart disease, you would have to continue to see your Cardiologist as well as your AME to maintain your medical. AFAIK the FAA considers ADHD medications a serious issue. its the government way. I was not asked or tested for alertness. You do not have to be Richard Collins or Ernest Gann simply a GA pilot with a story youd share with friends sitting in the hangar. If you fly only pilot with family and friends, your Medical certification, whether with the AME/FAA or flight-to-flight, is about them. If the FAA is lieing why should we worry about non-commercial pilots? Medical certificates are designated as first-class, second-class, or third-class. A quick examination of the many truthful and honest individuals that are truthful during their AME exams and are no barred from ever becoming a pilot! You never know what will happen to a pilot in flight with his medical conditions. by Paul Engstrom, Aviation Writer and IFA Member. It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action. Im still going to try to jump through the medical hoops because I love to fly. In this age of fax machines, email, twitter, facebook, linked in, etc, it is obvious that the FAA is stuck in the past. If successful with testing, you can then make further arguments that you do not have an aeromedically significant medical condition. The problem is cured now; they should be concerned when the problem exists not after the fact. What objective proof can they present that Im actually depressed or for that matter no longer depressed that would otherwise qualify me for a medical? What are the chances you will get caught? If you have a FAA medical denial for ADHD, call your aviation attorney at The Ison Law Firm for a consultation. I forgot to mention that your Idea sounds like a good Idea. I know of several pilots who have useful vision in only one eye or have amblyopia that makes it impossible for them to pass the eye exam. Its long and complex, but an occasional look at it, especially regarding your own health issues, is worth it. Any help would be greatly appreciated thank you. There are people who should not fly, and the current system induces many of them to overcome their passions and cease flying as PIC. Neither IFA, nor Paul Engstrom assume any responsibility or liability for events that occur due to actions you or others on your behalf take based on the information given in this article. We know that the incidence of major depression in the general population is 10%. Obviously, the Veterans Administration and the military are still struggling to understand PTSD and have been dropping the ball for 50 years. So the Medical certification system is statistically, virtually, perfector..redundant AS LONG AS you are in a multi-crew aircraft. Again, Im not arguing against the need for medical certification, but the process needs some serious streamlining. I have been flying with a special issuance 3rd class physical for 15 years. They, and AOPA, worked with me to get it corrected. But sharing them with the FAA is detrimental to your health. How do I get a copy of my FAA written test? Due to the self-reporting nature, the chances of getting caught lying on an FAA medical aren't very high. I live in the UK and the medical over here for a pilot licence, they dont do an EEG. With the impact these regulations and half-baked ideas have on our lives, economy, and national security in general it is time that federal employees comply with all the regulations the citizens that they regulate have to. Your signature at the bottom authorizes the FAA to search the National Drivers Registry for violations involving alcohol or illegal drugs, for instance, so you may want to think twice about trying to conceal a drunk driving conviction. I know there are very experienced Senior AMEs out there who may have more influence with a phone call to Oklahoma City. Legally, it does have to be the original. I think that increasing the value of a worn out C150 to about $100K (which would happen the day they were included in the category) would take most of the trainer fleet out of circulation and the already paultry number of students would dry up completely. Signed, RN/PPSEL/IFR. This is very disturbing to say the least, why bother imposing rules, laws or the like if there is no punishment implemented??? How many of you have had an enforcement action for a medical violation? I would be totally fine with an evaluation, but it sounds like a lengthy- expensive- and rather rigorous test that offers no gurentee to a medical. I had a single bypass in 1981 and have been operating on a special issuance since. We have a very good AME in our area. The next hell will be finding out what conditions they place on that SI. He landed safely, but it was his last flight. You said they can search, where do they find that information? Still there are occasional exceptions where a commercial or airline pilot dies in the cockpit. Yeah that is what I have been hearing. Its a losing game. I am in full support of the exemption and hope you will support it too; after all, it has worked for the Sport program and it seems it will work for you! have you ever once in your life had and on the other hand they are so vague. I am probably am the only one who will answer that I like to go for the medical because if forces me to go to the doctor. What was yours for if you dont mind me asking. Today with the revolution in the medical diagnostic procedures, and early detection system and timely treatment most airline pilots will qualify and pass the medical exam if the questions were not leading ones. I am 55. In reality, all pilots (no matter what their license) self-certify their fitness to fly every time they fly. Pilot organizations offer free advice to members, commercial outfits offer advice and assistance for a fee and printed resources are available. How come the standards are so different now? Where is the limit to government infringement? I believe those with conditions that would be considered a problem while flying (vertigo, blackouts, narcolepsy, use of medications that cause side effects that present without warning and could be debilitating, etc.) Get thorough guidance on how to proceed. He issued my medical with a waiver. I have been flying for 39 years and professionally since I was 18. With the right preparation, you can navigate the process efficiently. When learning to fly originally I was not even made aware this nor the NPPL was available. Good guy, good doc, been at it a long time, Im healthy and got my 3rd class. The MedXPress application In order to understand how likely it is the FAA would catch you lying, it is important to understand how they would catch you. The Great Debate: do pilots lie on medicals? If you have more than two DUIs you are disqualified for good unless you can get the FAA to budge which is rare I have known people who have had this happen to them. The only way to get information to them is via the USPS, another government agency stuck in the past. People who are actually depressed long term are not really at risk of doing things like this if they were, they wouldnt be here to start with. Hmmm Wiley Post was one of the great Aviators flue around the world was he Illeagle??? I took medication for years, before I decided I didn't like and chose to stop taking meds (with my parents). The FAA would, if it could, ban all general aviation to create a perfect safety record, and thus avoid any potential criticism from the press and Congress. Of course they do. I dont know if all pilots lie during medicals, but I do know of one who did. If I have a bad cold, or whatever, I will DQ myself for flight, even if such action results in a profound economic penalty for me even though I have a valid First Class Medical. That cost me about six months of flying. Irs Data Book, 2020. chances of getting caught lying on faa medical one of the medications used treat! And on the other hand we have people like the pilot mentioned in J. Mac McClellans article Too Many Risks in the May 2012 issue of Sport Aviation who out right lied about his substance use and abuse. Some pilots are terrified of the FAA's power to revoke their flying privileges and, accordingly, bend or ignore the rules. Unfortunately some do lie. The med examination wasnt any different from the third class but the vision requirements are different. I hope the FAA box didnt kill more. His point is that no one requires commercial We have to be honest with ourselves. I agree that the FAA has an interest in regulating commercial pilots but anyone else should have to produce a drivers license. Let me start with a word of advice: DONT DO IT. SO ITS FLY TILL I DIE OR GO TO PRISON. There are about 450-500 fatalities per year in all of GA. Before submitting your application, you will be required to review the penalties above, certify that you know the FAA will be scrutinizing your medical history, and authorize the National Driver Register to provide the FAA with a copy of your driving record. I got my ticket after age 50. He had diabetes. Thus, agencies such as the Transportation Security Administration (TSA), Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), Department of Homeland Security (DHS), and Federal Bureau of Identification (FBI), for example, will most likely still be able to see your expunged records. Im depressed, so their answer is to tell me I cant do anything to fix my problem whilst simultaneously denying me something that significantly helps with my depression: Flying? Help is only a phone call away! I used to go up about twice a week; now I havent flown since August. If the FAA knew the real medical condition of most pilots, they would loose thier certificates too. No mercy from the FAA and I was not even allowed to go to a hearing I just got the notice of revocation one day and that was it. Not only is the medical certificate process flawed, so is the new AOPA iniative. Ask your AME to call Oklahoma City and ask to speak with a physician about your case. While the bills in Congress to eliminate the Class 3 Medical Certificate are progressing slowly, the FAA is taking steps to minimize the bureaucratic red tape involved with certain illnesses, such as prostate cancer. You miss the point. He was the author of numerous books, including. Remove the AME from the loop, and there is no one but the pilot to judge whether the above situation is safe. Drowning deaths 2400 So, instead of less regulation, we need more and along with that comes enforcement. Not all applicants with OSA are required to have that test. In the end, it all worked out, but I was frustrated about having to locate records from retired doctors across the country-all because a desk bureaucrat figured they knew more about my health than 3 doctors who had recently examined me with aviation in mind. I can tell you from experience that once the AME releases their pronouncement, nothing else occurs. Have tried the polite calling routine, found they will lie to you, one time the lady told me my SI was approved & mailed 2 days prior, when I finally got it 3 weeks later the post mark date proved they had lied. This is why sometimes it becomes necessary to avoid telling the attending physician more than is necessary least the physician spin the whole condition in different light by making a mountain out of a mole hill, thereby destroying the flying career of the pilot for something that even the physician himself or herself is not sure about. Like many organizations, the FAA puts its own authority, power and existence ahead of those, whom it is supposed to serve. They may only get 3rd class, but they are flying with strict guidelines on preflight accu check, inflight accu check, etc. Good Luck. I did not disclose my name or address when I created this account. He as a jet driver and as the sole pilot that might have been a problem during the flight he was scheduled for the next day. The FAA issues updates to the AME Guide on a monthly basis. Sorry for apparently differing from the crowd on this, but I think people are nuts if they are lying. The issue is what we feel is important, because the government wants a complete history and providing it isnt possible and pilots are going to make their own judgements about whats truly important to fully disclose. A good AME will tell you how to jump through the hoops so that when you go for your FAA medical certificate, you have all the data needed for the FAA. I do not think that there is anybody who does not lie or has not lied at one time or another. Required fields are marked *. John has been quoted or mentioned in major publications, including Chron, Flying Mag, and National Review. I have all kinds of things happen to me and I can not possibly put them all down or even remember them. The entire aeromedical FAA staff can go kill themselves for all I care. The FAA is able to see what medication a pilot has been subscribed because they have access to the national prescription database. Yes its very rare for someone to have heart attack or neurological brain seizure in flight. All FAA medical certificate applicants are required to acknowledge that warning before submitting their application in MedXPress. Why do we have a federal bureaucracy policing such a low number of casualties? Even if you can disprove a legitimate history or diagnosis of ADHD (discussed further below), use of a disqualifying medication within 90 days of application will usually lead to a denial. Try to determine why it is required of you, but not others, with OSA. This is a bit off the subject of lying on the 8500-8, but it addresses another approach to not requiring a medical examination for certain types of flying. Lets assume 10%, which is probably a high figure. Furthermore, any standard of medical concern for pilots is lost because it allows the FAA to turn a blind eye to a medical condition. It is important to point out, according to the AOPA, there have been no accidents related to pilots self-certifying and flying under the Sport program, and many of those pilots Im sure, were under the same misconception as me! Here in Italy Superman still dictates. How about an 83 year-old on medication for type II diabetes, depression, and senility taking medication for all 3 problems? The all have SODA and continue to fly. But missing information will simply cause delays and more work; the medical examiner and/or the FAA's Aeromedical Certification Division in Oklahoma City, Okla., won't process an incomplete form. But here is where the absurdity of this over zealous pursuit of perfect safety is to be seen: The problem is I was diagnosed with ADHD back when I was about 9. Does anyone really believe that this is also not true for pilots and in fact is probably much higher, given the hard working conditions. It is none of their business. 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