Do we condemn them after we have taken our profit (Ezek. Find a pastor who will do your funeral and not punt it to the third tier pastoral staff. I dont know much about them beyond that once TAG disbanded I lost contact but a friend of mine did attend CJs church and said he was a Calvinist. I do not make any claim to have arrived as a Christian, but I do have a daily practical intentional walk with Jesus. The real eternal issue before us is not some form of Calvinism, but Christ! Many of us take seriously Jesus telling us to have no man as our father in that sense. Unless you show me some passages that demonstrate it was the norm. I have been watching dexter quite a bit lately and noticed that the character Angel pronounces things oddly sometimes, is it just me? It has been assigned to any imaginable paid position in an institutional church. And once fully addicted to the mind-blowing joy of preaching to a captive audience, who on earth wants to grub around in the tedious undergrowth of mundane serving of others? One of the benefits this boundary has brought to our church is that we are very clearly not a pastor-centered church. And Platt would be doing the job he was hired to do and the Trustees would be doing their jobs as well. Have you seen what their next conference is going to be? But even on the most complicated issues, Ive never spent 20-25 hours just preparing for a meeting. That was a while back, though, when parsonages were still en vogue. Zechzav wrote: I may be reading too much into your comments. No liberal lefty here, in fact, not really political at all, I am a member of MBCbut now a former member as of today. However, I can tell you as a senior pastor type that its hard to find the funding to hire enough pastors to make that a reality. Things are broken all over. One time my former FIEC church had Don Carson come to preach and my friends were so excited by it. There is something missing here. The produce being sold includes commercial growers, according to the signs on their pickup trucks. I dont believe we are fed on Sunday morning in some special way. Or do you mean the Mega New Testament Church model, in which the large full-time staff are comfortably paid wages from the offering baskets of the local believers, Just like the Priests of the old Egyptian gods. Problem is Jesus shepherded in another fashion and ran off when people wanted him to be a celebrity. I was furious but also too new to the church and too scared to call him out on it. Bet it was said with a disarming smile. I literally LOLed. He isnt married in order to allow him to be the uberparent to the parish. Remember that the word Pastor derives from the Latin for Shepherd, if these pastors were employed as actual shepherds they would be lucky to have any sheep left after a week, they would either wonder away, be eaten by wolves, would starve to death or dehydrate, since they seem to believe that they are only supposed to do one job and not deal with the other responsibilities. Most pastor positions are salaried. So we rarely, if ever, get to hear about them. Unless you show me some passages that demonstrate it was the norm. It is not a place for mature Christians to sit in the back and ask 1 man what can you do for me?. Again, I ask, what exactly makes anyone think their fellowship is somehow going to do it better that the most humble man in the history of the world? I do see the Body of Christ doing all those things, and more, but not paid clergy. The Youth and Family Pastor becomes Youth and Family Director when held by a female. @ Nick Bulbeck: Isnt all scripture is inspired by God ad profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness in order to do good works (2 Tim 3:17-8)? But at some point, arent we supposed to grow up into some degree of self-reliance, as far as the scriptures are concerned? Cheaper.only pay one pastor and get double the offerings? I met him the first time his visited this spring and he has remembered me and called me by name ever since (something akin didnt do for the 12 years we have been there.) Were Dones. There was a youth minister a childrens minister and an education Minister. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LML6SoNE7xE. So while I dislike Platts platitudes in general, Ive no problem with him supply preaching for the church. And the buzz word missional has taken over their thought process. There were no condolences from the church, nothing. But they are the foundation to faith and give definition and motivation to service (in light of His great love). You both nailed it to the wall! IMHO Peter was doing evangelism, like Billy Graham, for example, and not pastoring. Maybe I did not put it across very well and I certainly agree with you about the importance of the two great commandments. Balance is such a godly thing, and takes time and Im working on it. In my opinion, the real trick is how much of that stuff do you (generic you) wanna extrapolate out the Bibles way back when and try an make it apply in the here and now? And just in case you think that we are all sitting around on our duffs waiting for the pastor to do something, I want to reassure you that we are doing lots of things. Ed Stetzer and the Four Fence Posts that Define His Ministry, https://thouarttheman.org/2014/03/11/docent-group-should-dump-driscoll-and-hire-mahaney/, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8xysVNigCsU, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nIBOG8BRcdY, http://www.bpnews.net/49530/harveybattered-churches-sue-for-fema-funds, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I4vnQc59N-w, http://www.ntslibrary.com/PDF%20Books/A%20Defense%20of%20Calvinism%20by%20Spurgeon.pdf, http://www.christianebooks.com/TheGrahamFormulaDownload.pdf, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=llNnlE6Hbuc, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ5R08xDC6c, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HPqDaKajSnQ, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MdQINUBlPno, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EEHZ_-mE7Ao, http://www.metrolyrics.com/wake-me-up-inside-lyrics-evanescence.html, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3mvDQWOQ2iI, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LML6SoNE7xE. thats totally awesome. You never spoke a truer word. Mahaney and Wayne Grudem repeatedly regurgitate the same few sermons time after time. i called every single one. I dont know of any other job where an employee is granted 2 months of vacation after working for 6 months. Head pastor, lead pastor, teaching pastor, senior pastor, preaching pastor, associate pastor, assistant pastor, worship pastor, music pastor, youth pastor, college pastor, building services pastor, executive pastor . And no, I do not see in scripture where it says that we all have to be alike. One of many reasons I am not a fan of institutionalied/bureaucracy-ized Churchianity. Sometimes I think it insults womens intelligence that man cant be a corporate term. my view is that These pastors (without quotation marks) dont double-dip or moonlight as motivational speakers and writers, or publicise themselves, or invest their time in furthering their careers by making their (quotes) churches (more quotes) into conference centres at which they can speak. I think we see a lot of cases where pastors shy away from becoming friends with the people in their church. I wonder when they will roll it out. Pastor has lost its meaning entirely, much like the terms gospel and biblical. Do we then marginalize the spiritually handicapped after weve sold them the uniform white, conforming to you, mass produced bread? We could show them how to have a relationship with God by being preoccupied with that, ourselves separated unto Him. The salary thing is often a deflection. Now THAT was really pushing it. Charles Spurgeons : Defense Of Calvinism : Church Discipline David said, Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies. In the tabernacle was a table with showbread and a candlestick. Please dont tell me that Lon believes in Calvanismwould break my heart. I called the church to make the funeral arrangements and notify the pastor. To our readers @Richard- MBC@ Richard Norman: Insidious idolatry always tries to put the created thing ahead of the Creator. I seriously have heard the exact same sermon at three churches, with the same title and even the same examples, and all of those pastors boasted about the amount of time they spent writing their sermons. I think a marriage of convenience took place, and human nature made sure that it stayed that way when things became very inconvenient a few short years later. Being paid an honorarium for each sermon is not a salary so one wonders if this is all spin. 7). What does this mean? To slightly turn the phrase, may your non-tribe increase. David Eigenberg isn't deaf in real life, thus he doesn't need hearing aids or have speech problems. More and more of the community are showing up with poor eyesight and bad circulation in the feet. WebDec 1, 2019 John Ross Bowie doesn't really have a lisp, but he fakes it admirably well and with hilarious results as Bawwy Kwipke - er, I mean Barry Kripke - on The Big Bang Theory. I believe they prevailed. Our church is currently seeking a new pastor and articles like this are extremely useful to help us figure out what is/isnt a pastor! This should not be confused with ministry. Sometimes we forget and need to be reminded. All this flies under the radar. Nothing triggered me. This discussion so far has focused on ministry unto the flock, but Leviticus is full of ministry unto the LORD. I wrote the following a few years ago: No thing compares to knowing Him. Nor are they necessary for a body of believers to function. We called a man (we were SBC)to preach. More trucks and drivers, better on-line delivery and inventory control systems all make for increased efficiencies. I try to use gender inclusive language, but I dont bend over backwards. Platt tries to have it both ways. He wants to affirm the Bibles commands and then wants to finesse allowing people into the church who vote for policies that God prohibits. Then, Platt reveals his key concernsome people might get their feelings hurt. This is a predicate. I just see things through a very different lens. With the IMB and the NAMB and 9Marks and ERLC there, it sure looks like there will be political consolidation in D.C. of what used to be known as the SBC. Augustine of Hippo, author of The City of God? If left to ourselves, well always eat the same food. I know of churches that have moved into an area and purchased an existing building. that is the hill to die on protect their tax exempt status. 13. If you had a church in a city that had been owned free and clear for a 100 years it would end up being impossible to run if it wasnt flush with cash. Once the bible (or more specifically what some people try to do with the bible} is treated as simply a different version of the old Jewish idea of law and thus turned into a burden too heavy to bear-then we can quote Jesus himself about the fact that creating burdens like that is a big time no-no. That seems super deceptive to me. He never chided believers to get out there, knock on doors, join me on mission, serve your community, hand out water bottles at marathons, plant a community garden. He never chided believers to get out there, knock on doors, join me on mission, serve your community, hand out water bottles at marathons, plant a community garden. But, I try to see every person who comes to me as a long lost brother or sister. Like your husband, I am deeply touched when a pastor knows my name & uses it in a kind way. In kind renumeration is not a salary as you mention. Vs 14 God says I know He Aaron can speak very well obviously God knew that Moses did have some legit problem with speech like stuttering. The teaching became ever more shallow, the focus shifted from sound teaching to pop-culture issues and my husband and I believe thats what set it up to bring Platt in. The non Cal-Staff members eventually left and were replaced with SBTS people. Would David have shirttails untucked or wear a polo shirt if he was marrying someones child? Hmm-methinks my upbringing has given me an entirely different take on what the preacher should be. Silence, as the cancer stealthy grows? Check it out on our blog as well as http://fbcjaxwatchdog.blogspot.com. Muff, yes, yeppers, yessiree everything has to be done according to the Bible. The building which was on the tax rolls is now removed causing a decrease in the tax base and higher taxes for others. I am certainly not saying that my job is equivalent to giving a sermon at church. When I asked them What is he preaching on?, they didnt seem to know. I would not list this as something that I need. Reading the letter, it strikes me also that the elders etc. But it has come at the cost of ministry (unto the LORD, tent of meeting). In many of them, and also non-denoms, they are both shallow AND long. @ Deb: @ Gram3: I grew up Church of Christ however; denominations mean nothing to me. Quite a change in 20 years. Im sure they could help Mr Platt find a fulfilment of his dream. Anyone who claims the title of lead pastor or head pastor is usurping Jesus authority in the lives of believers. "At Grace Church, there are three things and ONLY three things that I do: I meet with the staff/apprentices, I preach about 70% of the time, and I lead a small group in my home. (2 Corinthians 11:3), Bet your proverbial @zz, MBC is being played, Spy To be fair, I am not sure how accurate this information is but it is worth checking out. He clearly could not know everyone by name as our capacity as humanssociologically speakingtaps out at around 150 (if you look at the literature). Its all part of the business. You cant have it both ways and these special privileges may prove to be a future rationalization for govern, And the churches want to remain tax exempt, but they certainly do want to benefit from the taxes others pay in: If we then love God we will/should obey God, or so Jesus said regarding himself. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HPqDaKajSnQ I learned recently that these titles are very important in that world. Books. I get your point but you will also notice in Acts 2 that believers had all things in common, met daily in the temple and broke bread together in homes. But then, I do suppose that the super-righteous could limit the crowd to only those who think alike-or like them or something, based on no room in the house. Absolutely not. Well, at least they will try and find you now or at least know your name. well, and they themselves explained the gospel when the occasion demanded. I dont know what triggered you to interpret have to have a man from my text. I believe this is the way missions should be viewed and accomplished. This is why ecclessiolgy and philosophy of ministry is so important. __ They said its a new testament model so it is. They went to provide medical expertise and other practical support to Nepalese men and women while they preached the gospel. Many today are flocking to leadership seminars in order to learn how to fish from successful fishermen sociological pragmatism, pop psychology, new models of ministry, and ad nausea. No pastor that is paid full-time could say that and be hired or kept on in a Baptist church. I dont try to use gender inclusive language. Having been in SBC churches for 20 years, I can honestly say that most megachurch sermons are shallow and quite devoid of teaching of Scripture. So disheartening. Another reason the SBC is a joke. He said "Bill, this is Christ's body, broken for you." Must be a slow reading inefficient thinker.). Imagine how differently the church would impact the world if the money spent on buildings and salaries went to meeting needs? Dont you dare tell me what to do unless you have a reason that I approve. I promote the Salvation Army over the SBC. Platt has always been a figurehead at the IMB, in my opinion. My problem with the tax breaks for churches and staff is they dont want government intrusion but then want to keep special exemptions. It is not the whole. And, sometimes, you get the pleasure of seeing their petty responses to someone that they have no other way of harming. Platt is a proven winner especially among a certain psychographic and he is a young man who can be in the pulpit for many years at MBC. Heres one thats guaranteed to make my progressive brothers and sisters recoil in horror and get their boxers and panties in a dither every time: I think that people are more comfortable with Jesus loves me (a song) than they are with keep my commandments (a direct quote from the mouth of Jesus) and some folks find it easy to play the two off against each other in order to avoid whatever they want to avoid and take advantage of whatever they want to take advantage of. This is interesting. I never really made it past the Introduction in the book 9 Marks of a Healthy Church because he did not include prayer in the 9 Marks. Experts warn David and Victoria Beckhams little girl may end up with speech or dental issues if she continues to use on, wrote Jemma Buckley in an article for The Daily Mail. __. have you guys even listened to his sermons?? Then those who gladly received his word were baptized; and that day about three thousand souls were added to them. Acts 2:41, NKJV The pastor has stated he spends 15 20 hours a week preparing his sermonbut in reading the comments above about how pastors will say that but just copy & paste other people I just found a sermon by MacArthur on Psalm 19 and it sounded exactly like the sermon my pastor preached a few weeks ago on Psalm 19. IMO Platt is an unethical showman, plain and simple. There is an interesting discussion on this subject between Mark Driscoll, James McDonald and Mark Dever here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ukvHuwFzBA. @ Hope: My guess is he travels around and give speeches. If one then takes this approach and looks at a goodly number of other things in scripture which Christians argue about one finds a lot more leeway in scripture than apparently some folks want to tolerate in todays church culture and practice. The elders who rule well are to be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who work hard at preaching and teaching (5:17). He was senior pastor at the Church at Brook Hills in Birmingham, Alabama, from 2006 to 2014. Who wants a job where you give everything, then the mob can take a vote as to whether you keep your job or not! Where is my intentionality in all that? I do believe the quickest way to clean up the Body is STOP the clergy/laity divide and go to the all volunteer movement. He has bigger things to do. Im big on capitol punishment, as in punishing the politicians who work at the capitol. i have a feeling it isnt wondered about. I am sorry the elders feel that David Platt is the next best step for the Mclean body. The mission of God, if I may use that term, is the salvation of the world, not just the salvation of me and mine. What does any of this have to do with God? That makes me sad. I wouldt read too much into that experience. Most people happen to believe that a pastor should be more than a podcast on legs. I dont disagree. But seeing it in the best light, the person to whom you spoke was just ignorant and ill-informed, not malicious. for a paper. Deep stuff like At the Movies or You Asked for It. We all hold each others hands in the hospital. And then, in adulthood, we become the teachers, the feeders ourselves? Folks, find a church in which you have a real pastor, not a talking head who offers nothingdifferent than apodcast Find a pastor who knows your names and will come and sit with you when you are in the hospital. Having grown up in a mainline Protestant denomination, this experience was fabulous. There might be potential liability issues should someone not a part of the church be injured on the premises, perhaps certain events wouldnt be covered under their policy, but that has absolutely nothing to do with the tax treatment of a 501(c)(3). Late coming to this, but I have some issues with property taxes in general and can see why that might be a needed exemption. When I have disasters, and I have had a few, the last thing I need is one more person trying to get involved. Much of the sermon is basic storytelling. @ Mandavilla: It evolved; a culture developed around it; rules and regulations; holidays and celebrations; the yearly church calendar; working people could show up, pay up, and leave; eventually the CEO posted a job roster for the volunteers; duties and titles; gender roles; power and access became linked to donated money; book$ and conference$ and web$ite$ and broadcast$; celebrity and status; trips and missions and safaris; etc. Theyre not, but thats not really the point here. But a sermon writing service? It has been assigned to any imaginable paid position in an institutional church. As far as being a teacher to the world, I hope the world reads scripture, knows Jesus, and does not believe everything that comes from Davids mouth or writings. But it should be available. Latent Life Force: Frozen Inside Without A Voice?, Resist or get out of this infected 50(c)3 church, the spiritual life you save may very well be your own, How can you see into my eyes, like open doorsLeading you down into my coreWhere Ive become so numb, without a soulMy spirits sleeping somewhere coldUntil you find it there and lead it back home What do you reckon the remuneration will be for this part-time pastoring? Soon the hospital evidences a growing problem. Having been in SBC churches for 20 years, I can honestly say that most megachurch sermons are shallow and quite devoid of teaching of Scripture. But have you ever noticed the way he kind of empasizes the c sound. Because those are more entertaining, particularly to a TV audience. LOL at Dee telling Deb to check her text messages. MBC needs to pray for discernment and examine Davids teachings. Boy did that make some pastors extremely mad. Should it come from the pulpit only? I will grant you that he spoke at other church in the UAE and other countries during some of those weeks, but the fact is he is paid a salary by the UCCD members to be the senior pastor at their church. Maybe a thread on ecclessiology would help define terms and roles it is sorely needed in the contemporary scene. Got a bit lively, but no legal or 501c3 problems. Or is FIEC the T4G/TGC/9Marks beachhead in the kingdom? Or do you mean the Mega New Testament Church model, in which the large full-time staff are comfortably paid wages from the offering baskets of the local believers (believers that they must manage). one person i talked to went to so far as to say we cant allow this, or else our tax-exempt status would be jeopardized. Out of that tent of meeting comes the grateful and loving response of worship and service. 20-25 hours might involve something like translating the passage out of the original language, maybe? but then disillusioning applies to so many issues relating to this silly religion of mine. My problem with the tax breaks for churches and staff is they dont want government intrusion but then want to keep special exemptions. He turned to me and said "Pastor X called me by my names tonight when he handed me the bread. InDavid Platt to Be a Teaching PastorIs it a Bridge Too Far for the IMB President? I wonder how much time he actually spends with his wife and children . You are correct if one finds a 501(c)3 church establishment which has all the makings/trappings of being a place where one man is apparently in charge, this is certainly not a true biblical representation of a local body of Christ. So, again, how is this guy spending 20-25 hours a week on a sermon? The father. Very few people are in jobs that are truly safe. Celebrity pastors who are in it for the fame, money, or to deceptively change a church polity. Seems like a focal point. Just suggesting we might try doing things His way if we want them to turn out well. Arrrgh. Its probably part of his Radical mantra live and give until you are no longer sane and totally burn out. Case in point; many years ago my mother, a widow, attended a small church. You get character development, plot development and backstory. For what its worth, my spouse and I are part of a home fellowship. Thanks for chiming in! I look forward to further comments if you are so inclined, Seulement vous, Jsus peut montrer cette vision de lhomme aveugle! (1)), Spy As thoroughly-Domesticated as North Korean Population Units. A Proverbial Shortcut To Mushrooms, Perhaps?, I think we should get off the road (1), Lon knows quite clearly that the people of McLean Bible Church dont throw stones, Spy They will respond with worship to the created thing Idolatry. A Methodist pediatrician I used to work with when we both worked for the Feds once said that (local SBC mega) was better organized than Reynolds Tobacco. At first I chuckled because it seems obvious to me that pastors who should know the names of those in their congregation. .The idea that the person doing the preaching must be the same person doing the ministering is really born of later parish systems, not the New Testament text. I dont believe providing free spaces to commercial growers and businesses should be considered a community service. I suggest you spend some time in your 10 hours of studying Gods word to review what is involved in being a pastor. Not a clue. The Creator takes precedence, and His revelation of Himself is central. Be Holy, for I am Holy! ____ Webdoes david platt speech impediment. Mahaney. John 3:16 God so loved the world.God loves us all and wants us to spend eternity with him. One hour to download it from a Research Service and trim off the labels, 19-24 hours to play Doom, Sounds like Comrade Napoleon on how the Pigs of the Inner Party have such a hard and lonely task. (Not that I think that is important but since the writer harps on that I just thought Id mention it.) Thanks for the man/human explanation. WebAt the minute 4:40, David Platt said that we [Christians at T4G] in a sinful world have blind spots that we cannot see on our own and I fear that I, that we, dont really want to see them. Then he used the text of Amos, and the idea of the sinful Jews described in that book of the Bible, as a parallel to the audience. Yeah, church life wont keep theologians in check. Today isnt all that special nor or we so special that we just know more than God. Same here. We are to go into all the world and BE witnesses. I happen to know his income will almost double. This is one of the things my church actually makes a concerted effort to doopen the facilities throughout the week to various groups. Mahaney.) He paid it lip service in the introduction, but did not believe it as a sign of health. My church now has quite short sermons, with liturgy. I literally LOLed.. I dont have a problem with the word pastor being used for clergy. (But seriously, 20-25 hrs a week on prep? Anything bursting in there makes surgery, clean up, and recovery much more extensive. I dont understand the appeal in attending something like that. Could you comment on that? In oterh words, find a real church.. One guy is not so indispensable and amazing that we need a video feed of him; it can be done by a real person in the location. David may be a great speaker, but hes not a good people person in my opinion. 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