But at the same time, Costains volume about the Plantagenets starts with the birth of Richard II and ends with the death of Richard III. David Benioff, hes no slouch as a writer either. The family drama about a 12-year-old boy was scripted by Vivienne Harvey. Dr. Jeffrey R. Wilson of the Harvard University Writing Program watched Game of Thrones too. So maybe you could lay that out for us, because it is really interesting, as you point out and throughout your book, how George R. R. Martin hes following Shakespeares first tetralogy to a point, or using it as a source. The Down Detector began receiving reports of problems logging onto Twitter at around 10.00am this morning. Ben Lauer is the web producer, with help from Leonor Fernandez. Signup for Breaking News Alerts & Newsletters. Richard Fitzwilliams: As his father was Rhaegar, Jon obviously has a very strong claim. As soon as I recognized the Shakespearean, historical parallels, I sort of watched the first couple seasons out of a sense of professional obligation. Sarah Peverley: Inheritance in the Seven Kingdoms is based on real medieval laws, often prone to contradictory interpretations. Other than The Full Monty, the 53-year-old actor has featured inBritannia, Marcellaand The Musketeers. I started watching it a little bit. Hes a character that the audiences find sympathetic and that we cheer for, like Richard III. A A. BOGAEV: Hmm. But then you get this overarching narrative that is a really simple knights-and-dragons narrative. The highly acclaimed actor's CV is full of big screen credits in very famous films, with other movie appearances, including Batman Begins, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel and Dead in A Week or Your Money Back, to name just a few. She also has an army, dragons and is beloved by those she liberates. Candidate 3: Jon Snow. Thanks for listening. BOGAEV: It must have been very exciting viewing, when you were proven wrong. Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. And I want to just back up for a second, because. WILSON: Yeah, I mean, if you think about if you scale back and you look at Shakespeares works, he was obsessed with monarchy, and he was also obsessed with tragedy. And as George R. R. Martin saidand I learned this the hard wayanyone who thinks that they know how his storys going to end, based on knowledge of the sources that hes using, will find themselves mistaken. And then hes going to turn against his own family, kill them off, rise through their ranks, and become king of Westeros, leaving audiences to sort of wrestle with, Do we sympathize or do we hate this character that we used to love? Until, then, he is going to get unseated by this long-lost claimant to the throne, whos been hidden away in this far-off land. Ygritte escapes, and Jon pursues her until he is surrounded by wildlings. BOGAEV: Oh yeah, so you Well, but thats interesting. OSAKKEET. BOGAEV: Hed go for that Game of Thrones marketing ploy. WILSON: Absolutely, Barbara. Roles in the immediate aftermath of the film included parts in BBC dramas Playing the Field and Clocking Off, while over on ITV, she starred alongside Alan Davies in Bob & Rose. And the similarities between that kind of heroic romance and what you see in fantasy literature, I think, kind of, recognition of those proto-fantasy elements in whats called the Tudor myth; the way that Shakespeare told this story, not as history, but as mythologized history of heroes and villains. I could have used your help with Sansa. Speer played Guy in the original film, and was brought back to reprise the role alongside other cast members Mark Addy ( Game of Thrones) and Robert Carlyle ( Once Upon A Time ). Jon Snow, the illegitimate son, was a Richard III type, who would win the crown (and our hearts, in a love-to-hate-him kind of way). A parallel to Shakespeare. The way that I think about it is that its probably less the case that Martin was directly reading Shakespeares history plays about the Wars of the Roses. He has been married to Vivienne Harvey since February 19, 2015. " A Man Without Honor " is the seventh episode of the second season of HBO 's medieval fantasy television series Game of Thrones. CATELYN: I mothered more than just rebels; a fact you seem to have forgotten. Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. I can't think of any historical example where a king (with no children) dies and passes the crown to his mother. So theres clearly analogies we can draw to franchises like Star Wars, which have told a story, but the order in which they made those texts does not mirror the order in which the events in the story happen. It's on the small screen that you'd have seen Hugo most since his days as Guy in The Full Monty. Slavery series from GoT creators criticised, Game of Thrones cast 'emotional' as they head for finale, Station master arrested after dozens killed in Greece train crash, Covid origin likely China lab incident - FBI chief, Ukraine war casts shadow over India's G20 ambitions, Blackpink lead top stars back on the road in Asia, 'Wales is in England' gaffe sparks TikToker's trip, India anti-corruption crusader fighting to clear his name, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. [CLIP from Game of Thrones, Season 8, Episode 6.]. Theres the amazing Twitter account @ShakesOfThrones. BOGAEV: And maybe ask a not very scholarly question. But you have to choose, now, one person. ARYA STARK: She doesnt like your queen, does she? The cast of The Full Monty in 1997 including Steve (centre, ginger hair). Theres this amazing quote, and I think its the First Part of Henry VI, where the Duke of Exeter saysI wont get this exactly rightbut he says, This jarring discord of nobility, this shouldering of each other in court, this factious banding about of favorites, tis much when scepters are in childrens hands.. My prince. Following an investigation into allegations of inappropriate conduct, actor Hugo Speer has been removed from the upcoming The Full Monty sequel series over at Disney+. "The Full Monty" cast: Hugo Speer, Mark Addy, Steve Huison, Paul Barber & Tom Wilkinson at the Golden Globe Awards held at the. You got off on a wrong foot then. We've compiled a list of contenders for the coveted Iron Throne (the seat of the kingdom's monarchy) and enlisted royal commentator Richard Fitzwilliams and medieval academics professor Sarah Peverley and Dr Gordon McKelvie to weigh in on each candidate's chances. The central parallel in A Song of Ice and Fire in Game of Thrones is kind of the Starks as the Yorks, the Lannisters as the Lancasters, and the Targaryens as the Tudors. BOGAEV: Yeah, thats really true. Its supposed to be difficult to understand whats going on in these texts, but I think we can forget how extremely difficult these texts areShakespeares first tetralogy, A Song of Ice and Firefor first time readers to come to these texts and just try to understand what is going on here. It was edited by Gail Kern Paster. What's he waiting for? Beverly Hills, CA. WILSON: Costains four-volume History of the Plantagenets is the one source that Ive seen that Martin has singled out as where he draws his knowledge of the Plantagenets from. And then, 1592 is the sequel to those plays. CATELYN STARK: Why in the name of all the gods would you. Sarah Peverley: Any house that previously ruled can make a relevant claim to the Iron Throne. BOGAEV: And you can never really remove money from any of these conversations. In 2006, he appeared in the postal worker drama Sorted. He has been married to Vivienne Harvey since February 19, 2015. Speer began his acting career appearing in the TV series McCallum,[4] The Bill,[3][5] and Heartbeat. Exactly. This has been so interesting, and I wasnt sure what a conversation about Game of Thrones and Shakespeare was going to be like, so thank you so much for that. Hugo Speer was born in 1969 in Harrogate, Yorkshire, England, UK. She resembles the villainous Margaret of Anjou, queen by marriage to the feeble King Henry VI. One of Britain's finest TV actresses, Lesley has rarely been away from the screen since playing Jean in The Full Monry a quarter of a century ago now. And the show, as you said, outpaces Martins ability to write more of the books at one point. It sows discord and division. [2] It first aired on HBO on May 13, 2012. BOGAEV: Its funny. And unify the families, and then usher in this age of peace and prosperity in Westeros. His mysterious death was also the catalyst which sent DI Poole to the island of Saint Marie. Your father had to go to war to end his rebellion. He reunited with Robert Caryle to star alongside Samuel L.Jackson in The 51st State and has also appeared in The Hidden City and One Night in Istanbul, about a cabbie who takes his son to see Liverpool in the Champions League. Tell us more about that. And so he stands at, kind of, one level of remove from Martin and the sources that Martin credits for his knowledge of this period of history. Wed also like to thank DC playwright, Allyson Currin, for poring through all eight seasons of Game of Thrones to find the clips used to illustrate this episode, even though we know thatfor Allythis was no sacrifice at all! This history gives this young Henry Tudor a tenuous claim that is shrouded in secret marriages and bastard births to being the last surviving Lancaster. WILSON: Right. Gordon McKelvie: Now that Jon is indeed Rhaegar's legitimate son, this puts him second in line to the throne. Yeah, I can see that. Henry VI, Part 1Start at the beginning of Shakespeares War of the Roses tetralogy by readingHenry VI, Part 1from The Folger Shakespeare. He played a minor role in the film Bhaji on the Beach before his first notable appearance as Guy in the film The Full Monty. Yet The Hound was victorious on a personal level, confronting his terror of fire and. Actor Hugo Speer has been dropping from the upcoming The Full Monty rebootby Disney+following allegations of "inappropriate conduct". Gordon McKelvie: There have been plenty of unpopular queens with too much influence and power. Ben Lauer is the web producer. This means a Targaryen restoration was an option, though not necessarily a popular one. The end of every story is the beginning of another story, which is kind of what we are familiar with from television, right? JON: Sansa thinks shes smarter than everyone. It weakens solidarity and defenses against outside sources. Gordon McKelvie: As much as I enjoy watching Petyr Baelish's schemes, it would not have worked in medieval Britain. Her late husband Robert Baratheon led a bloody rebellion and overthrew the ruling Targaryen dynasty. After the first few episodes, it became clear to him that the plot of this HBO epic tracked really, really closely with the plot of Shakespeares first tetralogy, the four Shakespeare plays looking at the monarchies that fought the Wars of the Roses. Speer had been set to reprise his role as Guy, 25 years. 32.3. Talisa agrees to accompany Robb to the Crag for medical supplies. Theon sends Luwin back to Winterfell. The prince legally wed Jon's mother Lyanna Stark in a secret ceremony (Editor's note: All this he does not know yet). As Gaz's best mate Dave, one of Mark's most memorable scenes saw his character wrap himself in cling film in a bid to get a more honed physique for his big strip performance. Its all gods great plan, and its actually very orderly, which I can see why that would be very convenient for a play-writer or a screen-writer to work with because its so structured. You start to see that this is not just chaos, but theres a really standard narrative governing all of this chaos in Game of Thrones. Heroes versus villains. Already very well known to British viewers thanks to playing Denzil in iconic comedy Only Fools and Horses, Paul lit up the screen in The Full Monty as well endowed wise cracker Horse. But her current claim rests solely on the power she wields. You know him, you know his family. But it very much follows the structure of War of the Roses. BOGAEV: Oh, you mean like a Hilary Mantel type kind of treatment? Yep, The Full Monty actor was in the very first episodes of both Death in Paradise and Father Brown. Source: Acorn TV. WILSON: The material for the book never would have come about in the first place, because Shakespeares so infused throughout modern storytelling that people are being Shakespearean. WILSON: The Tudor myth is this notion that developed over the 16th century under the Tudor dynasty; that Richard III is this demonic villain whose physical deformity kind of symbolizes an evil soul, as well as the generations of political chaos that had plagued England ever since Henry IV broke the hereditary line of royal succession in his rebellion against a divinely-placed Richard II. Robb hears Alton Lannister's unfavorable reply to the peace terms brought to Cersei and, with his prisons full, orders Alton placed with Jaime. Please don't make me go there. Shakespeare and Game of Thrones. However, the problem in Westeros is that nobody follows pre-determined laws. The website's critical consensus reads, "Quieter and more meditative than previous episodes, 'A Man Without Honor' is bolstered by incredible performances and a welcome return to an unlikely but surprisingly satisfying onscreen duo. BOGAEV: You know, despite all these parallels, you do raise the point in your book that the TV show has different writers than the book series. But then I also think that theres a connection between the labor that we have to do to understand whats going on in these texts and the love that we have for these texts. Dont think I cant smell it. Hugo Speer, Actor: The Full Monty. So its kind of a it made me think of a chicken and the egg question, you know? by Peter A. After their steel factory shuts down, the gents found themselves unemployed - cue the film's hilarious job centre queue scene to the sounds of Donna Summer's Hot Stuff. Derek Jacobi is King Richard.]. WILSON: And you get these fan communities that grew out of people whove just spent so much time working to understand whats happening in these really difficult texts. Our podcast, Uneasy Lies the Head That Wears a Crown, was produced by Richard Paul. After his father was killed in battle, Jon can be considered the next heir. They go on and on and they expand outward. Previous: Shakespeare, Science, and Art| Next:Naomi Miller on Mary Sidney andImperfect Alchemist. Afficher la dfinition de tous les tats : Size: : Choice of Sizes . The world of Westeros may be fictional, but its origins are far from imaginary. We had technical help from Andrew Feliciano at Voice Trax West in Studio City California. He was interviewed by Barbara Bogaev. WILSON: Yeah. [12], Speer moved to London after his success in The Full Monty and lived there for fifteen years but moved back to his native North Yorkshire. As a medieval rule, bastards could not inherit, especially if legitimate heirs existed. Browse 106 hugo speer stock photos and images available, or start a new search to explore more stock photos and images. And I notice that as you go through your history, all these weak rulers, they all start to show up in the portions of the lineage that were written about by Shakespeare. The one that you built or the one that the carpenter built? [3] Career [ edit] Acting [ edit] Shakespeare Unlimited comes to you from the Folger Shakespeare Library. He is an actor and director, known for The Full Monty (1997), The Interpreter (2005) and Mam (2010). So you didnt read the books? Hugo Speer Birth Place: Harrogate, Yorkshire, England Profession Actor Narrator 1 Credit 999: What's Your Emergency? Die Vorgeschichte zu Game Of Thrones! Read about our approach to external linking. He is more entitled to the throne than Daenerys. As is policy, an investigation was launched. In the histories, the weak ruler is a fascinating character, because you get a couple different versions. The episode received positive reviews from critics. BOGAEV: Because shes a displaced ruler in an insane royal family, and she goes mad with power, and she dies at the hand of the person who loves her most, which seems to me so Shakespearean, but not to the letter of the plays. ARYA STARK: How did you survive the knife through the heart? So where the Elizabethan theatrical scene sort of identifies and nurtures individual talent; with Game of Thrones, we see a corporate entity literally taking the narrative away from the author and finishing it not with his direct involvement, for the sake of making more money. Lord Randyll Tarly's dislike for Daenerys as a foreign invader was a sentiment that would be shared by many throughout British history. This week it was confirmed that stars including Robert Caryle and Hugo Speer are coming back together to film a their roles in a new eight-part series, which will follow Pam and Tommy onto on Disney+ as one of the more surprising additions to the streaming service. But the way you describe it, its apparently monumental and incredibly entertaining. Theon traces them to the farm, where Dagmer finds evidence that the Starks have been there. BOGAEV: Wow, when you look at it that way though, it seems as if almost any war would fit into the Wars of the Roses category. She went on to become an assertive ruler with a formidable army and dragons. And then, hes a survivor, so maybe that makes him not Shakespearean, because he makes it to the end of the play. [CLIP from Game of Thrones, Season 8, Episode 1.]. The young actor who was shot to huge fame in The Full Monty, Will played Gaz's son Nathan, with his character going onto be the strippers' biggest cheerleader and a constant presence at rehearsals, as Gaz was desperate to spend any time he could with him. But as we get closer to Shakespeares time, we start to get a moreit wasnt formalized, but it became much more conventional for the crown to pass through patrilinear succession from the oldest male child to the oldest male child. And so you have, in Shakespeare studies, all of these fascinating conversations about, kind of, whats the right metaphor to describe the way that Shakespeare shows up in modern literature and culture? 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Other TV credits including another ITV show, supernatural series Afterlife, Scott and Bailey and Doctor Who, which saw her work Bob and Rose creator Russell T.Davies again and in Channel 4's Before We Die last year. VideoRecord numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. Sansa awakens from a nightmare to find she has had her first period, meaning she can bear Joffreys children. So is this a case of Martin and Shakespeare are two different authors who are working with similar source material? "[6] IGN's Matt Fowler gave the episode a 9 out of 10, noting that "While A Man Without Honor didn't have as many big, striking scenes as some of the past few episodes, it made up for its lack of face-melting moments with some absolutely fantastic one-on-one scenes. Ein Jahrhundert vor den Ereignissen, die in der epischen Romanserie "Das Lied von Eis und Feuer" (Game of Thrones) des New York Times-Bestsellerautors George R. R. Martin beschrieben werden, ergreift ein Knappe namens Dunk das Schwert und den Schild seines verstorbenen Meisters und nimmt an einem Turnier JON SNOW: You still have it? Sarah Peverley: Little Finger could use his status to style himself as a "man of the people". Born and bred in Westeros, Cersei is a devoted mother who married into royalty. A well known star prior to appearing in The Full Monty as steel work boss Gerald, Tom, now 74, earned himself an Oscar nomination for his performance in In The Bedroom. Before me it was father. Illegitimate no more, he is the son of Rhaegar Targaryen . I mean, absolutely. I (2013). You then also get the politically weak ruler, who simply doesnt know how to exercise power in a productive and healthy way. When they feel the jaws beginning to shut, theyll sue for peace. In the book, I theorize this as an example of the Ikea effect. BOGAEV: Thats true. He is a supporter of Leeds United. And its really clear that Martin knows about the Wars of the Roses, but its really unclear what the relationship between Martins adaptation of the Wars of the Roses and Shakespeares adaptation of the Wars of the Roses in his history plays is. Hugo Speer, seen here with Mark Williams as Father Brown in the current series (Image credit: BBC Studios/Gary Moyes) Theyre influenced by Shakespeare, without realizing it, or theyre influenced by Shakespeare and theyre trying to hide that influence. He is an actor and director, known for. Since very nearly baring all on screen, Robert has gone onto star in countless TV shows and films. Please dont. But then you also see it in life. Peter Dinklage said to The New York Times that fans should "move on" after the "GOT" finale. The question in Game of Thrones is: are Cersei and Tyrion going to be able to put their personal disputes aside for the sake of Lannisters, and the Targaryens going to be able to put their civil wars aside for the sake of humankind? I think an argument can be made that one of the thesis statements of Shakespeares career is that hereditary monarchy is doomed to failure. Played by actor Hugo Speer, viewers got a few glimpses at him in several flashbacks. Other roles before the 1997 film included parts in Minder, Boys from the Black Stuff and To The Manor Born. The boys arrive at the farm where they sent the orphans, not knowing that Theon is almost on them. Dance puts on a cockney accent as he recalls the . Birth Place:Harrogate, Yorkshire, England. You know, the reason that Macbeth is upset in act one is because he thinks hes going to be chosen as king. But would the monarchy have favoured this revelation? All Rights Reserved. Considering, first that were a Shakespeare podcast, and second, that this is one of the most popular TV shows in decades, we thought: Well, why not? But is he entitled to? A A. asettaa uudelleen. He made a return appearance in the 2020 episode 8.10 "The Tower of Lost Souls". WILSON: So by structuring its plot on the Wars of the Roses, but then detaching that event from its historical moment, Game of Thrones helps us theorize what a War of Roses is: fractious squabbling that occurs among competing leaders within a group. Her ambition earned her the loyalty of many aides and allies. In Daenerys's case, she has a legitimate ancestral claim. Thank you so much.. You see this really prominently with television. Released in 1997, The Full Monty follows six unemployed men who decide to create a male striptease act to make money. Succession is also determined by the sequence of royal family members. If he gained the support of a significant number of lords, there was nothing to prevent him from trying to attain the crown. Her desire for the Iron Throne is well known, but is the dragon queen entitled to it? He defeated King Harold and became King of England. Artists position themselves behind Shakespeare, and just like a slingshot in cycling, they leverage Shakespeare to get a little bit of momentum, but then they dart out from behind Shakespeare and they go into all these directions and leave Shakespeare behind to kind of fade into the distance. WILSON: What I think happened, if we think about Shakespeare looking at the Wars of the Roses; when Shakespeare looks at the Wars of the Roses, its just chaotic history, but he finds generic form. Game of thrones valar morghulis all men must die stark lannister unisexe t 16A. It also beat Titanic, the presumed favourite for Best Film at the BAFTA Awards although this is not surprising in hindsight considering the BAFTAs often favour British movies. And then it allows these foreign enemies to overtake the divided group with relative ease as it, kind of, gnaws away at itself. Since 2018 he has played the character Lucius in the historical fantasy drama series Britannia, which is produced by Sky Atlantic and Amazon Prime. Why that? Its unclear if his character will be recast or if the writers will have to tweak the script to address his absence. Petyr Baelish could have risen high but it's a dangerous place to be, as Cromwell, who was later executed by King Henry VIII, eventually found. Although, you just pointed out some of the ways it really deviated from Shakespeare, for anybody whos listening who watched Game of Thrones. I was going to say, you got a little shaky at the end there. It was edited by Gail Kern Paster. As for his own notorious demise, which rivals anything in King Lear or Titus Andronicus, the news was broken to him by a man in the street. Our producer has tried his best to make sure that this conversation is relevant to everyone, whether youve watched Game of Thrones or not. So even though hes oppositional to Shakespeare, the way that Costain is telling this period of English history is deeply influenced by Shakespeare. DAENERYS TARGARYEN: [in Dothraki] Will you break the wheel with me? Then, you know, as we get to the final few seasons, it maybe slid back into professional obligation again. [8] From 2013 to 2014 he starred as Inspector Valentine in the new version of Father Brown on BBC TV in the first series and the first episode of the second series. Now aged 60, Robert's TV appearances have come in the likes of Hamish Macbeth, fantasy series Once Upon A Time and Cobra. Garland Scott is the associate producer. Its probably more the case that Martin was deeply influenced by historical fiction and popular histories that were themselves deeply influenced by the way that Shakespeare told this narrative of the Wars of the Roses. This episode adapts content from the second novel, A Clash of Kings, chapters Theon IV, Sansa IV and parts of Catelyn V and Catelyn VII. [7], Since 2010 he has played the lead character of DCI John Stone in eight series of the BBC Radio 4 police drama Stone. Well get the girls back. BOGAEV: And youre saying the Tudor myth is what Shakespeare explored. Dr. Jeffrey R. Wilson is a faculty member in the Writing Program at Harvard University, where he teaches the Why Shakespeare? So now Shakespeares trying to draft off of the momentum of Game of Thrones in the exact same way that Game of Thrones and other texts use Shakespeare to create momentum for themselves before launching out into their own endeavors.
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