of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and the commissioned corps of the Public Health Service If you're not an Infantry Officer then to us you're an NPC because you lack skills and experience. Hey brother. My CWO put him in his place and ask what would this cadet' commanding officer would think of his conduct and told him to leave. So let me get this straight a probably well connect cadet who memorize info given to them as well as staying nice and tidy, as yet to graduate or earn a degree yet some how thinks that they are officers. Some points I wanted to make sure I hit are: -No, you don't have to call them sir/ma'am or salute them, but you absolutely should show them the respect you would like to receive. Sometimes cadets are relegated to less-meaningful duties, or endure some modicum of hazing as part of the experience. Practice ought to comport with policy. Private Industry, n Chief Readiness Flight Eielson AFB, AK Rather, the Modern War Institute provides a forum for professionals to share opinions and cultivate ideas. My CTLT with D 1/47th IN (1983) was an amazing experience preparing me to enter an Army in transition, and the esprit de corps and commitment to duty extended from CPT Barber to every member of the command, even their temporary members (a USMA Cadet and me), with especially valuable membership from NCOs in the command. Cadet you are not a cadet when in you ng or reserve unit. The Army has launched an investigation after the unmasking of a semi-anonymous Twitter account the command sergeant major of U.S. Military Academy, West Point, allegedly used to criticize elected officials and former President Donald Trump, an Army official confirmed to the Daily Caller. Production NCO(i overseen what the shift leaders do as far as getting production done (preparing the sustenance for the Airmens consumptioon in accordsnce with AF Standards i showed him the Regs and the Cook production logs the leaders (shiftleader, 1st Cook, Baker Supervisor, bskers) follow at various levels of preparinv the Sustenance.. Things are changing around you and you're failing to adapt. Within the cadet corps there was a rank structure and cadets saluted other cadets with rank above theirs. Technically. Sergeant Major Jeremy Schlegel, from Hanover Township, Pennsylvania, joined the West Point Band in August of 2008. . I just wished the device had been turned on when he was messing with the ground strap. While in Iraq in 2003-04 we got a batch of 12 west pointer kids and more than half were momma's boys and short of a huge shift in their personality and ideals, they're too far gone in the head to be respectable leaders. It's virtually guaranteed there are at least one or two SNCO in a given company qualified to take a short term command of the company. Get off your high horse. Command Sergeant Major Fraser has deployed to Kosovo and Iraq. Dont take it as a sign of disrespect however. Your submission has been received. 354th Civil Engineering Squadron, n USAF Civil Engineering Officer Grand Forks AFB, ND Cadets salute one another and it is initiated according to cadet rank. By Command Sgt. Per the order, they are not entitled to a salute. As a mom of a cadet thank you! He has developed the course SS493 Music & Influence, which he teaches in the Department of Social Sciences. Staff Sergeant Cardone earned her Bachelor of Music, magna cum laude, in . Command Sergeant Major Fraser awards and decorations include: Meritorious Service Medal (1 SOLC, 1OLC), Army Commendation Medal (2 OLC), Army Achievement Medal (1 SOLC, 4 OLC), Presidential Unit Citation, Joint Meritorious Unit, Army Superior Unit, Army Good Conduct Medal (Numeral 6) Defense Service Medal, Kosovo Campaign Ribbon, Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal, Global War on Terrorism Service Medal, Korean Defense Service Medal, Noncommissioned Officers Professional Development Ribbon (Numeral 5), Armed Forces Service Medal, Military Outstanding Volunteer Service Medal, Army Service Ribbon, Overseas Service Ribbons (Numeral 3), NATO Medal, Drill Sergeant Identification Badge, Drivers Badge, German Schuetzenschnur Marksmanship Award (Silver), a recipient of the Honorable Order of Saint Barbara, the Noble Patron of Honor, the Martyrdom of Saint Maurice, the COL Robert L. Manning Achievement Medal, and the Order of Horatio Gates Bronze Medal. From the enlisted perspective, while drilling with my Guard unit, there was confusion as to where exactly Cadets fit in to the scheme of things. Staff Sergeant Megan Cardone joined the West Point Band in March of 2011. The best way to train cadets to be officers that their soldiers will look up to and their NCOs will respect is to treat them the way you want them to act. The cadet never will outrank a sergeant first class, master sergeant first sergeant sergeant major etc. Sergeant First Class Anthony has also served as a percussionist with the 9th Army Band in Fairbanks, Alaska, and the U.S. Army Signal Corps Band in Augusta, Georgia. *This post originally appeard The Havok Journal*, U.S. Army photo by: Mike Strasser/ USMA Public Affairs, Scott Faithis a veteran of a half-dozen combat deployments and has served in several different Special Operations units over the course of his Army career. but after I had earned my keep so to speak he spent a lot of time teaching and mentoring this Dot head and when I was commissioned he took time off from his civilian job to come to the commissioning ceremony to congratulate me. Dont demand respect earn it. I respected his rank and expertise, but I detested him otherwise. Even if that enlisted man is the Sgt Maj of the Army. 2-8. It is not just West Point cadets who outrank NCO's. I'm not a regular progression cadet so this is a better look at the situation. Your email address will not be published. As others have commented, folks should remember that those Cadets that you give a hard time to will in a short time become those officers that are in charge of writing your NCOERs never mind the fact that they also will be your leaders when deployed in a combat zone ( I served in the 1st Cav Div during Desert Shield and Storm), in other words garbage in equals garbage out. Army command policy is clear the definition of terms. During cadet training we were paid at the rate of an E5. As a CDT, I was generally treated pretty well at my unit, this could have been because I was Mustang Officer in training and a former NCO, and that my CO was part of the cadre at Western Illinois, so she made it a point to assign me to a vacant officer position, in this case kind of a huge assignment as the Maintenance PLT LDR at a MED Truck CO, whereas most units dont even know what to do with a CDT. Sergeant Major Schlegel earned his Black Belt in Lean Six Sigma (Process Improvement) in 2016, and is actively involved in building the process improvement community at West Point. Infantry Veterans/Retirees cluster together on various online formats and we're very concerned what direction things are going and it has nothing to do with President Trump, I've seen what a prelude to war is twice in my lifetime and I'm seeing another one but in a slower manner. I thought this is a very well written article. Regarding saluting courtesy in the cadet corps. USAG Yuma Proving Grounds, n Principal Engineer Colorado Its cadets like you that become true leaders, because you have put your ego in check and will EARN the respect of your troops! Nurses don't outrank med students or vice-versa. They've shown great patience, respected my process, and I am grateful for these SFCs, MSGs, and SGMs. Technically. While in New York, she won second prize in the Alexander and Buono International Flute Competition. Technically, they aren't even qualified to fulfill a team leader slot. Very interesting. Hands on training.. they eill not actually be cooking but learning from hose that do it daily.. Only through a wriiten agreement from the pms tonthe guard commander are allowed to serve as acting LT's. It can be a very valuable and rewarding experience if done right and an unfortunate waste of time for the CDT and unit if its not. In addition, CSM Whiteford served two tours at the U.S . Other than those few, I feel as though the future is bright. West Point outlines quarantine, isolation guidelines in playbook April 1, 2020. They always forgot to take the safety bail/pin out of the RPG fuze and the round would just bounce off our Bradleys, lol. And I declined two Bronze Stars because some senior Officer decided to dispense them for every Officer and Senior NCO in theater! Thus, I suspect a warrant officer's wife is addressed a "wifady" (wife/lady.) If cadets, during this valuable leadership experience, are not given the chance to act as lieutenants and acting platoon leaders, then the whole CLTC program should be scrapped. U.S. ARMY INSTALLATION MANAGEMENT COMMAND, "We Are the Army's Home - I learned something that day. Most recently, CSM Craven was the Command Sergeant Major for the 5th Security Force Assistance Brigade (SFAB) at Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Washington. Luckily, my trusty CWO officer witness this kid who likes to give orders about something he knows nothing about and showing his outstanding example of a true and morale officer. Correction The lugnut comment was in reference to comment 11 from Toga, not the author. Naval Facilities Command Expeditionary Warfare Center, n Region Security Engineer Naples, Italy CSM Craven has a Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice from Colorado Technical University and a Master of Science in Management from Excelsior College. The West Point Music Research Center is dedicated to understanding and communicating the effects of music through multi-disciplinary research and analysis. The Army isnt some pay your dues ol boys club anymore. We're also the one demographic that gives the socialist/communists nightmares because they know they can't take us head on in any manner so they go through the younger people to reach their aims. When an NCO saluted me, I didn't just wave my hand at my cover to dismiss the salute, but "locked up" a little myself, acknowledged him with eye contact, and responded to any greeting. They are legally considered E-5 equivalent, and aren't Branch qualified. Prior to serving in the Army, he was a high school percussion instructor and earned a Bachelor of Arts in music from Truman State University in Missouri. She received a Bachelor of Music Education from Indiana University, where she studied both trumpet and voice. U.S. ARMY INSTALLATION MANAGEMENT COMMAND, "We Are the Army's Home - I was at Camp Buckner in 1989 as my Bn (2/502d, 101st ABN) was slated to train yearlings. Sergeant Major MaryKay Messenger is a native of Newburgh, New York, and a well-known soloist throughout the Hudson Valley region, performing classical, Broadway, jazz, and popular music. So as indicated by mil/regs a 17 year old snot nosed cadet is indeed an enlisted social/moral/intellectual/ and just plain all around great american hero. CSM Robert T. Craven hails from Swords, Louisiana and enlisted in the U.S. Army in March 1995. Command Sergeant Major: CSM Scott Drewes: The West Point Band (also known as the U.S. Military Academy Band or USMA Band) is the U.S. Army's oldest active band and the oldest unit at the United States Military Academy, traces its roots to the American Revolutionary War. Your comment reeks of arrogance. Command Sergeant Major Robert T. Craven 26th Command Sergeant Major United States Corps of Cadets, West Point CSM Robert T. Craven hails from Swords, Louisiana and enlisted in the U.S. Army in March 1995. Yet, still burdened with the unsocial characteristic of the enlisted class. Strangely enough, the Services expect the exact same behavior as "officers and gentlemen" (and of course ladies) from cadets and midshipmen, as they are also subject to Article 133, even lacking a commission, and some are dismissed from the Service every year for violating Article 133. Interestingly, when a graduating cadet received his commission, (there were no females in the cadet corps in those days), his commission was backdated 15 months to the date he entered the cadet program, giving him a lead on promotion to first lieutenant. West Point grads are elite and you know it, Ask any enlisted person and they will tell you that westpointers are arrogant and on need of a lot of training. Command Sergeant Major Michel R. Fraser was born in Wilmington, North Carolina and raised in Conway, South Carolina. Major Rusty A.. My Drill Sargeant after our last 12 mile road, reminded all of us that until the graduation ceremony and recite the enlistment oath only the will we officially be soldiers. Or a sergeant major for that matter. Then we'd mow the guy down with an M4. So you are incorrect when you say that Cadets outrank me. Is the cadet attached or assigned a leadership position? IQ averages are around 120 for most Grunts and for those that don't track demographics, that's a huge jump from national averages. Master Sergeant Brandie Lane of Columbia, South Carolina, joined the West Point Band in October of 2010. The garrison supports a base population of over 16,500 Soldiers, Civilians, Family Members, and Contractors as well as supporting over 40,000 retirees in the area. The cadet qualifies here too because s/he is obviously present for duty, as assigned. I respect them all but I just wonder what makes them "Elite" as you say? That just goes to show that the regular cadets get crapped on and they can't change it. The NCO referred me to AR 600-20, Army Command Policy, which makes it pretty clear that West Point cadets do, in fact, outrank Army NCOs. Haha. WO1s even as appointed Officers are subject to all provisions of the UCMJ even art 33. Here's my advise that will serve you well; always remember this; ASSUMPTIONS ARE THE MOTHER OF ALL FUCK UPS! I was floored. She entered the military in March 1999 attending Basic Combat Training and Advanced Individual Training at Fort Jackson, South Carolina where she was awarded the MOS 75B Personnel . The cadet would still have to be "Regularly Assigned". No commission? You have to look at national guard and the reserves. Warrant Officers are formally addressed as "Mister." Share mutual respect and work together is the name of the game. Saluting a cadet completely invalidates the First Salute ceremony when they commission. After graduating from high school, they both felt called to enlist, and became clerks. Or a sergeant major for that matter. What is the TO&E and where is the cadet slotted? A Leaders Guide to Conducting Research Staff Rides, Its a Bird, Its a Plane, Its. So our government invested thousands on a lying, dishonest, ill-informed, and immature man child to lead others. He is actually correct, SMP cadets serve in ARNG units in the rank of cadet. DESCRIPTION Twin sisters Cathy and Charlie Kahl enlisted in the Women's Army Corps together, and managed to be stationed together throughout much of their career until they both retired as Command Sergeants Major. Rrrrr matey, were be that 3rd Lieutenant. Before her arrival, she lived in New York City as a Kenan Fellow at the Lincoln Center Institute. That sounds like a fun and challenging job. The definition is enhanced further by stating Soldiers "present for duty." (2) If the commander of a headquarters and headquarters element dies, becomes disabled, retires, is reassigned, or is temporarily absent, the senior regularly assigned Army Soldier of the particular headquarters and headquarters element who performs duties within the element will assume command. Most cadets understand and respect the NCOs within their unit. She has served as Operations NCOIC since 2017. Directorate of Public Works, n Director, RDT&E Division Port Hueneme, CA This author wrote an excellent piece. I pray that you are only a LT yourself. In her free time, she enjoys spending time with her husband and two incredible sons. Upon completion of preflight we went to flight school. Treat the Cadets with respect. While Deployed with the Corps in support of Operation Inherent Resolve, he also assumed duties as the Combined Joint Task Force (OIR) J-3 Sergeant Major. Because according to the Army, they outrank me, sir.. Appreciate your reply. Before anyone attacks me, I am a prior Army SSG who is now a MSIV Cadet (Active duty and Branched). I say this as a retired officer. Elite only in their mind. I request you review 600-20again. Ask any SJA. Upon completion of Basic and Advanced Individual Training at Fort Sill, Oklahoma he began his military career as a Field Artillery Surveyor. I have heard the saying "Stop being an arrogant officer?" What comes after is when the real learning begins. I think the part of the reg people have over looked is "the senior regularly assigned Army Soldier will assume command". Look at any Command where a COL thru Gen and you will see a whole lot of Soldiers both Officers and NCOs running and doing everything to make that command function! So glad I longer serve. -If you are a Soldier and you are still carrying around the trash attitude of the "good ole' days", it is most likely time for you to go. I was now an active duty Captain with a right shoulder patch ( a big deal in those days ) and a couple of combat medals on my chest ( not bragging but including because of the story ). They won't forget what you've shown them and they will resent you. The cadet only holds E-6 equivalency. This regulation shows that cadets rank after commissioned and warrant officers, but before NCOs. And if for one second you think any Infantrymen will ever do something that violates our Constitutional form of government, you've made the worst assumption of your young life. Your email address will not be published. (Contracted ROTC cadets are MS III and MS IV, overwhelmingly and predominantly.) My friend confirmed that Navy Aviation Cadets rated salutes by enlisted personnel, at least they did at that time. While the other sources trained and commissioned officers for all USAF career fields, the Aviation Cadet Corps produced only pilots and navigators. I too am an honorably discharged Army Vet from an Army family. A rescinding announcement is required if the temporary assumption of command is for an indefinite period. He has much humility and respect for all who serve and served so he will appreciate your words. (I was going through a few operations connected to wound recovery). Maj. Roderick Taylor (USAG West Point Command Sergeant Major) October 14, 2016. So there is definitely some need to define regularly assigned. ROTC cadets do too. No Salute should be required or rendered. I found myself going toe to toe with these junior NCOs and enlisted, but not to destroy their souls (as the NCO in me wanted to do so badly) but to talk to them and help them understand that if you treat these cadets like crap, it will be returned 10 fold in a year when they commission, hate NCOs, and are their raters. In other words, each the SNCO and the cadet would be functioning appropriately. Served in the regulars from 1983 to 1985, and from 1987 to 1989. As for me, while a SNCO would in general be qualified to succeed a LT as platoon leader, any such succession would need to be limited to a short term basis. So there I was no shot, at my first unit on JBLM, WA as a 2LT and I thought that based on what I was taught that you salute all superior officers. Other courses attended include the U.S. Army Airborne School, Air Assault School, Combative Level 2, Master Resiliency Trainers Course, Battle Staff Course, First Sergeants Course, and the United States Army Force-Management Course. She is the premier vocalist for the West Point Band and first sang with them at their season finale 1812 concert in 1980, at the age of 12. I practice it for all things because that was my mom golden rule from childhood to yesterday (dementia stole her from me). I wore the Cadet rank insignia of 2LT. If you think a fellow West Point graduate is a great leader, see how she/he behaves after having a soldier vaporized by an RPG in front of him. Your attitude will get you relegated to a Quonset hut in BFE. Fort Sill Oklahoma United States Army NCO Academy Challenge Coin . And make it quick Lieutenant. This does not mean they are to enact on that rank as authority has been given to the person in command of them. Most recently, CSM Craven was the Command Sergeant Major for the 5th Security Force Assistance Brigade (SFAB) at Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Washington. MAJOR GENERAL MAXWELL D. TAYLOR Superintendent, U. S. Military Academy . It was advanced pay so to speak. Oops! Thanks for subscribing! In those days once a month you went before the pay officer and received your pay in cash. It would be a very foolish cadet who started issuing orders to a senior sergeant. That is why cadets dont go to parade rest while talking to NCOs. CDT Vincent High marks! My NCOs treated me with respect while I was a midshipman, but taught me what it meant. Both have an option for Cadets to be apart of a simultaneous membership program. You know this, you are assigned as whatever rank you have in the guard. We get people whose ideals are from left field and seem to think the Army is their play ground. We were enlisted in the Air Force for a two year enlistment. Pro-Tip: Don't make a blog post, offer a comment section, then expect not to be schooled by your elders, especially when taking a condescending tone. I see that USMA had a proud communist recently graduate, he might as well spit in my face and all other better warriors than myself before me. Enough of my rant! Cadets and NCOs do not salute one another. Without these people, "How do you become "ELite"! Sometimes, XO is a way of calling the commander or a head of a department in the organization. The authors creative example about an NCO looking at a lugnut and an officer looking at the whole vehicle is nuts (bad humor). Cadets are never saluted. And taken that way. Upon completion of Basic and Advanced Individual Training at Fort Sill, Oklahoma he began his military career as a Field Artillery Surveyor. Only W1's, lacking a commission, are excepted from Art. Combined Security Transition Command Afghanistan (Ministry of Defense Advisor), n Engineering Director Kabul, Afghanistan Some of the comments left in this thread have really let me down. Sergeant Major Schlegel began his enlisted career in August of 2005. While it might be fun to haze the new margarine bar (he hasnt even worked his way up to butter bar yet), is that really the impression you want him taking with you when he gets commissioned and reports to his first unit? Whoever came up with this interpretation needs to review deeper. Mr. Mitchell is a licensed Professional Engineer and a Level III Certified Acquisitions Professional. I think not. However, I don't see the wisdom of placing a SNCO in command of a company ahead of a cadet. They aren't " in the pipeline" yet regarding training , experience or anything else yet. He graduated with a Master of Music in composition from Bowling Green State University and a Bachelor of Music in composition from the Capital University Conservatory of Music. Then, abruptly, he found a substitute and quit the Army to pursue an appointment to the U.S. Military Academy at West Point. Long story short: Years of hands-on experience trumps reading an instruction manual, This applies in every situation and every single time. I agree with you Sir. Cadets were not entitled to receive salutes from enlisted personnel. A lot of people have been killed in combat because of the arrogance of westpointers. Superior to a mere cunning, lazy enlisted man. (3) Senior regularly assigned Army Soldier refers (in order of priority) to officers, WOs, cadets, NCOs, specialists, or privates present for duty unless they are ineligible under paragraphs 2-15 or 2-16. You are absolutely wrong. single time. When I contracted under the SMP I was administratively promoted to the rank and pay grade of E-5 ( I had served two years previously in the Army Reserve as a junior enlisted 11B). A CSM outranks a SPC, but you never see the latter salute the former. I respect ALL Personnel of the US ARMED FORCES and Civilians appointed over me. 133. Providing innovative solutions and discoveries through international collaborations with leading academic departments, research centers, and industry. ). 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Allow them to lead you too! The smart LT listens to his/her NCO and seeks counsel from him/her. I am a cadet and am military police and drill with them as well. It is a chain of command situation. Seems like the worst kind of leader to have. And yet, the UCMJ does hold all commissioned officers, including CW2-CW5, accountable for their behavior, as they are subject to Article 133, Conduct Unbecoming and Officer and Gentlemen. Sergeant Major Schlegel earned his Black Belt in Lean Six Sigma (Process Improvement) in 2016, and is actively involved in building the process improvement community at West Point. We promise not to send you more than one email a week! Medical students are not in this hierarchy at all except they answer to doctors and do only what a doctor tells them to, under that doctors supervision. The Modern War Institute does not screen articles to fit a particular editorial agenda, nor endorse or advocate material that is published. Before joining the band, she served as an adjunct faculty member of the University of Maryland School of Music, where she also earned her Master of Music in trumpet performance. As that was a long time ago, my memories of the experience were that it was the best and the worst of both worlds. Eight cadet-athletes were selected to leadership positions and will assume their duties Aug. 10. Let me explain: Its summertime, and for many cadets in the Armys ROTC programs and at West Point, that means Cadet Troop Leader Training or CTLT. Speed is your friend in a convoy, never drive slower than the rest of the civilian traffic, that way when a bad guy is trying to catch up to your convoy, he sticks out big time and the rear vehicle can easily engage him. He previously served as Music Arranger and NCOIC of Sound, Staging, and Lighting at the 113th Army Band "Dragoons" in Fort Knox, Kentucky. I do not cater to idiots and refuse to acknowledge someone that does not even respect the rank they expect their subordinates to respect. And you'll have to deal with the reality that there are better men out there and you may be in over your head but don't blame others for your shortcomings. He recently earned the Professional in Human Resources Certification through the Human Resources Certification Institute. You probably dont salute WOs either because you think theyre beneath you as well. In this case he/she is regularly assigned, potentially in an E3, E4, E5, or what have you spot. Are we really saying an NCO could not do that? After completion of basic training, he attended Advanced Individual Training at Fort Eustis, VA, where he completed the UH-60 Helicopter Repairman course. From the senior officer perspective we were largely ignored. Mark C. Quander Brigadier General , US Army 79th Commandant of Cadets NEW! Youre right, Sergeant, a West Point cadet DOES outrank you. Incorrect. Period. Through conversations, we get better LT's coming out of ROTC or NCO's newly converted to O grade.. I was a 13B20-Gunner. They assume command until relieved by proper authority except as provided in 2-8c. Assumption of command under these conditions is announced per paragraph 2-5. We want to mold a new Officer to become a great leader we can always remember but there's a limit to what we're willing to do. We had a young know it all LT around the COMS tent he starts looking around and I see him messing with the ground strap the future leader of our troops disconnected it. Great investment. A straight up lie from a boy who thinks book smarts makes him am expert in my mos. Secondly, just because of this outdated regulation (considering no cadets are assigned to any deployed units) requires no customs or courtesy obligation from enlisted soldiers or officers. 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